Tank vs. Tankless Water Heaters

In theory, I’m a big fan of tankless water heater technology. I even brought one back from Hong Kong in a large suitcase many years ago. Itโ€™s still cranking out the hot water in my processing facility. When it came time to replace my 20 year-old hand-me-down tank water heater in my home I thought, โ€œFinally I can get a tankless water heater.โ€ However, the technician in me insisted on research that ended up getting more involved than I had imagined. I went way beyond company literature or Consumer Reports and spoke with engineers at three different manufacturers. What I found is that a tankless is not always the best choice and it depends a great deal on your individual usage, climate, installation location, noise concerns, length of venting and energy source. (Please note the discussion below is limited to gas-fired units.)

Tank vs Tankless
Some of the first things to look at are cost, efficiency and climate.

  1. Cost. The cost of a tankless is about the same as a high-quality tank heater, ignoring installation. Gas tankless units run much hotter, often three times the BTU output of a tank unit and therefore require Category III stainless vent. It is very expensive. In my application, the vent would have cost as much as the tankless water heater. It can certainly be less in other applications with shorter runs. But it is a considerable cost even with short vent runs. Keep in mind if you are replacing a tank water heater, you will need to replace the entire venting system.
  2. Efficiency. Tank water heaters are getting more efficient. If you buy a 10- or 12-year warranty tank heater, they have more insulation and more efficient combustion chambers (in some cases) and often two diode rods (more on those later). In some cases the energy savings can be as low as 8% with a tankless. So compared to efficient tank units you may only save about $50 or less in energy costs per year. That’s a good thing for sure. However, it may cost you more when you calculate the cost of venting and higher maintenance on a tankless unit. In my case, it would have taken close to 30 years to pay for the added cost of the tankless in energy savings, when considering my installation and venting costs.
  3. Climate. One engineer working for a popular brand of both tankless and tank heaters attempted to talk me out of a tankless due to my northern Michigan location. In the end that info played a role in my decision. If you live in a cold climate and power failures are an issue in your area, keep in mind that the heat exchangers can crack in a matter of hours due to frigid air dropping in the vent on short vent installations. That’s a very expensive repair. This is not an issue with tank water heaters, but I’ll spare you the physics lecture. This was an issue for me because we often travel for four weeks at a time in the winter and we often leave our home available to friends. I love ’em, but I can’t entrust them to properly drain the plumbing lines.

In the end, I went with a tank heater in my application. It was the most cost-effective and greenest in my opinion. Had just a few of my factors been different, I could have easily gone with a tankless. Whatever you decide, donโ€™t let anyone tell you that either is better unless they know all the particulars of your application. And remember, in the end the greenest and most cost-effective thing you can often do is take better care of what you have. If you have a tank heater, most people don’t know that 90% of failures are from the tank rotting out and leaking. That can easily be prevented by changing your anode rod every 2-5 years. The anode rod hangs down inside the water tank and is coated with a material that dissolves over time and prevents the water from rotting out the tank (Another reason why people say “Don’t drink or cook with water from the hot tap). It can be removed and inspected easily by a homeowner with a good wrench. You can get 20 plus years out of tank if you replace them, much less if you don’t. I bought a spare anode rod and hung it next to the water heater with tag saying “Install in year 2010.”

With a tankless, follow maintenance procedures and keep in mind, depending on the mineral content and quality of your water, you may need to flush your unitโ€™s heat exchanger annually. It is also advised to install a sediment filter on your incoming water line.

I hope this helps. Because I built, wired and plumbed my own home I may have a bit above average understanding of these issues, but Iโ€™m no expert by any means. So do the research on your application and consult plumbers with experience in both applications.

Please click on “Comment” below and let me know if this was helpful.

Addendum February 2, 2011

Please note that I posted this article in 2007. Since that time many companies have come out with tankless water heaters that have PVC venting. That changes the cost consideration with regards to venting. I’m still an owner of both tank and tankless water heaters (home and business) and while I’m happy with both, I remain convinced that neither is supperior in all applications. So do your research and choose what works best for you.

Timothy


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158 responses to “Tank vs. Tankless Water Heaters”

  1. jody Avatar
    jody

    Hi Tim,
    This is really useful information. Thanks for sharing it. I think it also illustrates how many issues a business owner must consider as we continue down the path to creating greener business models. From water tanks to delivery vehicles to light bulbs, this type of information sharing is vital to all of us who are relentless in our pursuit of the most environmentally-friendly, economical solutions to our business needs. Gracias mi amigo!

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  2. Manfred Heidinger Avatar
    Manfred Heidinger

    Thank you, Tim, for this information
    it just reached us in the nick of time since we needed to replace an existing, old Water Heater. Your alert about stainless steel venting, its cost, plus cold climate challenges made it easy for my wife and myself to decide what we finally obtained…a new updated Tank Water Heater.
    Regards
    Manfred Heidinger

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  3. Lisa Krzywonos Avatar
    Lisa Krzywonos

    Tim, Thanks for this very useful information. Just last night our hot water heater tank started leaking and I turned to the internet for some insight on hot water heaters. Given our cold Chicago winters and other cost and installation concerns, we too will be going with an updated, energy efficient tank heater.

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  4. Sue Avatar
    Sue

    Hi,
    Thank you so much for writing such an informative article that explained JUST what I was looking for …both sides of the issue. I really wanted to go tankless to but I live outside of Chicago in a older trilevel and would also have to replace all my venting which isn’t going to happen.
    Thank you so much for making a difficult decision very easy in the end!
    Thanks again for taking the time!
    Sue

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  5. Sue Avatar
    Sue

    Hi Sue:
    I’m glad the water heater article was helpful. I usually write about food related issues, but after all the research and homework I did, it just didn’t make sense not to pass it on. Blogs can be wonderful.

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  6. robert Avatar
    robert

    One thing not covered in the conversation is the fact that tankless water heaters only produce 4 gallons a minute to a 75 degree rise. This means that when water comes into the heater at 50 degrees f it will heat 4 gallons a minute to 125 degrees. A good moen tub valve will use 7 to 8 gpm (gallons per minute) and if you have a soaker or whirlpool tub, the valve can pass as much as 11 gpm. As a journeyman plumber I have installed 11 tankless water heaters this last year and have removed 6 of them for tank type.

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  7. robert Avatar
    robert

    Anyone using a on-demand water heater would almost certainly need to switch to low flow shower heads and be patient when filling a tub. I already have low flow heads and don’t have a tub, so that slipped my mind. You won’t get the same amount of flow compared you a tank water heater.

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  8. robert Avatar
    robert

    Anyone using a on-demand water heater would almost certainly need to switch to low flow shower heads and be patient when filling a tub. I already have low flow heads and don’t have a tub, so that slipped my mind. You won’t get the same amount of flow compared your a tank water heater.

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  9. Rose Avatar
    Rose

    Tim,
    We are getting ready to build a house. We had always heard that tankless water heaters were better. I started doing the research to make sure we were not making a mistake I realized for our application with our water source being a well, that the maintenance from scale build up would make it not as cost effective. Thank you for the great info it is much appreciated.
    Thank you, Rose

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  10. Evan Avatar
    Evan

    I have found a use for these, we fill a 75 gallon was tank with 140 degree water ever 2 to 4 hrs for cleaning, and these models work great for that, but after reading the reviews i will sure keep and replace if ever needed our gas tank water heater for our house, by far the best setup

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  11. Dwight Wojtonek Avatar
    Dwight Wojtonek

    I am a plumbing contractor and my hardest job is educating customers on water heaters vs tankless heaters and what you wrote is very true there is one more water heater that A.O.Smith has out and it is a VERTEX 100 this water heater is 96% thermal efficent and the cost of the unit is the same approx. as a tankless it gives you 4.31 gpm continious flow based on 65 degree inlet water temp and 110 outlet temp. i am in northern ohio so this means to me that the 50 to 55 should give me a 3 gpm flow and still get 110 degree water temp. just wanted to let you and other people out there to ask about these water heaters i have seen to many tankless water heater heat exchangers cracked due to the spark ignition and they are never the same after that….

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  12. David Avatar
    David

    Hi,
    A good article,I learned something new. I have a question/problem I’m hoping someone can help me with. We installed a gas model tankless heater and it works fine except that the H2O temp fluctuates from very hot to very cold. Adjusting the temp with the handles only works for a short time. We have a rancher and it is vented through the roof. After installing the tankless I closed the water intake on the regular tank. I had a plumber come out and wants to cut a hole in the wall on the backside of the shower wall and install a pressure balance block. The fixtures are already pressure balanced and I have my doubts about adding a block. Is it possible that the house water pressure is too low? The plumber also wants to add a shut of valve on the regular tank. The reasoning being that there is water coming from the regular tank effecting the tankless. I am hesitant to do this because once we get the tankless straight we’ll be removing the tank. I’d be mighty grateful for a solution or any light that would solve this problem. Thanks for help you can give me.
    David

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  13. Kristen Avatar
    Kristen

    Thank you for the info. It was really helpful and un-biased. We’re going with a tank too.

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  14. Victoria Avatar
    Victoria

    I too am making this decision and your article really helped. I live in AZ and the gas cost here is very low. I get a lot of company during certain times of the year and two or three water functions go on at the same time. I also already have low flow and all. Thank You!

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  15. Jim Avatar
    Jim

    I’ve always been suspicious of the tankless heaters because of that huge B.T.U. rating. You have that dangerous hot exhaust pipe going through your attic when you could have a super high efficiency tank-type that uses a piece of PVC pipe for exaust. I would think that anyone who regularly uses hot water,and therefore lessens the "standy" factor would be better off with a high efficiency tank.

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  16. Mary Avatar
    Mary

    HI Tim,
    Just wanted to say thanks for all this information! You addressed everything I wanted to know. And btw, the diode rod on hanging on the water tank with note to self to install is impressive! Hard to find good men like you these days!
    Mary

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  17.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    Thank you for sharing this great easy-to-understand comparison and for you honest "truth-in-advertising" approach about your research.
    I just wanted to comment that there is an even greener (and usually more cost effective- even in northern climate) choice for hot water: solar with electric or gas back up. You can use your existing tank and retrofit.
    It would be great to see someone as technically competent as you research a comparison or traditional tank vs. solar+tank systems!

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  18. W. Avatar
    W.

    This is a great balanced article that makes a well reasoned case for tank heaters. I wish I had read this 3 years ago when I made the unfortunate decision to install a Bosch tankless which has been nothing but headaches from day one.

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  19. g Avatar
    g

    anode, not diode, I believe. Otherwise very nice article.

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  20. Brian Avatar
    Brian

    Excellent piece on water heaters. I have quite a bit of knowledge about plumbing and homebuilding and was considering installing a tankless in a rental property. Your excellent article made me clearly understand why that would have not been the best path.
    Thanks!

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  21. Jeri Avatar
    Jeri

    Hi Tim, Thanks for the info, just discovered a wet floor by the waterheater, time for a new one. Sounds like tankless still has too many cons compared to tank. Guess I’ll stick with a tank and just buy a better quality for efficiency and practice better maintenance. Thanks again

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  22. Cathy Lambert Avatar
    Cathy Lambert

    I read and appreciated the time you took to share what you learned in your research. My choice to buy a water heater is based on the need to fill a bath tub. Right now I have to rely on heating water on the stove. I know what patience is in that regard. I’m thinking in the direction of a tank water heater. Which brand did you go with and why?

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  23. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    Hi, thanks for the info from your hard research work. We are located in Canada where the colder weather is an issue and our water being on a well is quite hard as well. You brought up issues that were never thought of, and the blog people in the know who agreed with your findings helped as well. Blessings Dave

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  24. Barb Avatar
    Barb

    Thanks for the info. This really helped explain to us the difference in the the tankless and tank water heaters. Looks like we’ll be sticking with the tank.
    Thank you.

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  25. Stephen J Eisenberg Avatar
    Stephen J Eisenberg

    Hi Tim
    Another thank you for writing this article.
    I have a number of apartments which I rent and supply the hot water heaters. The cost of replacement is high and very bad for the environment if tanks die early.. Your suggestion on the diodes to extend the life of these units is invaluable especially when you consider it is potentially multiplied by hundreds and hundreds of these necessary machines..

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  26. Daniil Avatar
    Daniil

    Why is there no date of the article??? "Tank vs. Tankless Water Heaters".
    Technology changes fast.
    Thank you.

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  27. Lucy Avatar
    Lucy

    Thanks, this was very helpful to me in making my decision!

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  28. Colleen Avatar
    Colleen

    Thanks for the great information. I live in a tiny condo in Colorado, and wanted a tankless to gain some space. I was looking for precisely this type of information so I can ask the correct questions when I get a few estimates. I also appreciate the tip on the diode replacement of my current tank. I had no idea about this.

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  29. john Avatar
    john

    Today I was torturing myself over replacing my bad tank heater with a tankless. My plumbing distributor insisted that tankless was the way to go.
    My old 50 gal NG direct vent tank replacement is nearly as expensive as a tankless. But after investigation a gas line upgrade was needed for the input rating for the tankless. It’s max input is four times the tank heater ( very cold tap water needs big burner )
    Then there’s an electrical outlet installation needed for tankless.
    So, being a single guy and not a big user of hot water – it’s a waste of money with no payback.
    Great thread – thank you !

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  30. john Avatar
    john

    First, that you for all your comments. Second, My apologies for not responding to some in a more timely manner, but due to a settings issue, I did not see some of them.
    So to answer a few questions, Daniil, this post was put in in early 2008.
    Cathy: I’m out of town right now and I can’t remember the brand right off the top of my head. However, it was manufactured by Rheem, a very reputable water heater manufacturer. I ended up buying it at Menard’s so it has a Mendard’s brand name. I called the Rheem factory and spoke to an engineer that assured me that it Menard’s version is the same water heater they put the Rheem brand on.

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  31. Jamie Brown Avatar
    Jamie Brown

    Very informative article. Today I visited the Noritz Tankless Demontration Showroom in Orange County CA hoping to evaluate whether tankless is for me. My 40 year old home is very typical construction for our SoCal area. To change to tankless, I would have to replace the venting, add a water filter, run a larger volume gas line, add an electrical outlet and plan on decalcifying the unit every 6-12 months not unlike a coffee maker needs. This requires additional plumbing fittings and a sump-type pump to run a vinegar solution through it. In addition, there is the possiblity that my shower valves and/or shower heads may need to be replaced. This is because I have low-flow units (water shortage in California). All tankless units need at least a half gallon a minute water flow. A low flow shower could cause the unit to shut down in the middle of a shower and instantly run cold. Add to this many plumbers who despite their claims, do not have the knowledge of these units to properly install them. By the way, my 50 gallon Home Depot tank water heater has 19 years on it (family of four)and has never been drained, never had the rod changed and it still does not gurgle. I admit I am probably running on borrowed time. I think I will shop for the most efficient tank heater and be done with the agonizing over tankless.

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  32. DroolingElmo Avatar
    DroolingElmo

    I run a total of 7 electric tankless water heaters in my home and 6 other properties I own. The oldest is 9 years old and the newest is 6 months old. I have never had a problem with any of them. The installations were all so simple I could do them myself. But best of all I have seen a 40% drop in my electric usage with no other changes. The last one I installed was in a rental property that is a one bedroom cottage with two people living in it. The electric bill was always about $85 per month and now it hasn’t gone over $45 in the last six months. The model is an Eemax EX95T and it cost me $226, so I have already saved my money back in 6 months.******Save energy, save the earth, don’t fool with gas, too expensive and unreliable, go electric tankless!

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  33. George Cantonis Avatar
    George Cantonis

    Our Noritz tankless is about 2 1/2 years old. I love the fact that it gives us endless hot water, that it is taking up less space and is installed outside, however we started to have problems with our shower heads clogging with sediment… we suspect the tankless, but there isn’t much literature on this problem. We are planning to flush the system. Any advice on how to proceed. We live in So. CA.

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  34. George Cantonis Avatar
    George Cantonis

    I would also suspect the water heater as well. In a tank heater, sediment can settle out. It’s likely minerals from the water which is why tankless units need to be flushed. I yours was installed properly is should have bypass valves that will allow you to attached a hose and run flushing fluid through it. Your owner’s manual should explain how and any plumbing supply store that sells tankless heaters should have the supplies you need. Let us know how it goes.

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  35. Perry Avatar
    Perry

    I bought a house with a tankless system and it has been nothing but problems. Every 3 years you have to rebuild the valve system ($50) and the electronic control box has gone out twice in 3 years ($122 each time). When the water is on it is….hot, not an issue. But in the shower, if you like to soap up, stop the water flow to scrub, then turn on the water to rinse, that is bad! You will be blasted with COLD water while the heater fires up and all the cold water runs through the pipes, out the shower with hot water to follow. And you have to have the water flowing full stream all the time or there is not enough water to keep the thing going. Because the electronic box went out again, I am thinking of going back to a tank but am not sure if the installation will be an issue. Hope not!

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  36. Harvey Lewis Avatar
    Harvey Lewis

    I found the information very helpful.I am a plumber and trying to learn as much as possible about the pros and cons of selling a homeowner tank or tankless from a objective point of view and not because my company pushes tankless because of the higher cost. Your article shed a lot of light on the tank vs. tankless issue.
    Harvey L.

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  37. tsering Avatar
    tsering

    Well reasoned and very helpful.

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  38. Rhonda Avatar
    Rhonda

    My Power Vent tank water heater started leaking 3 days ago. The plumber said that I needed a new water heater. Which way to go? Even living without hot water, I didn’t want to rush my decision. I was leaning toward a tankless water heater until I tested the temp of the water coming into my house. My plumber told me that the tankless would not heat up the water enough for me. I like really hot water for the few dishes I hand wash and for my shower. The tankless was not going to give me that. Add this to your information and it’s a tank water heater for me.
    Thanks!

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  39. Burton Farber Avatar
    Burton Farber

    I was about to instal a tankless when the contractor called to bid said "I wouldn’t buy that make!"
    I decided to read more about the payoff and the "green factor. And after a lot of checking, I decided to replace with a tank unit.
    The comments about replacing the anode rod led me to notice that my application leaves only a couple of feet to the ceiling! So I assume that to replace the rod, I would have to remove the unit so as to allow enough room to replace the rod.
    So I’m back to square one!

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  40. John Avatar
    John

    Thanks for the time you took to share this with everyone.

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  41. Jon Cook Avatar
    Jon Cook

    I have a rural cabin that currently has a solar flat plate that brings water to about 100degF that feeds to a propane tank water heater to make final warm water. Tenant, who pays propane bill, wants to replace this with a tankless. Incoming water from flat plate to tankless would be 100degF. Winter temps are cold, and tankless will be in insulated attic. Install with SS vent pipe, etc sounds expensive. Is this worth it?

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  42. Matt Avatar
    Matt

    I always appreciate what appears to be both a knowledgeable and balanced review (regardless of product or service). This helped me to decide to stick with a tank for my particular needs. Thank you.

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  43. Caroline Ray Avatar
    Caroline Ray

    Thank you for taking time to write up this article. It was very informative and useful :0) The best that I’ve found in my searches!

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  44. daveyo Avatar
    daveyo

    Great article, very helpful! Just found my tank leaking (6yrs old!) & im waiting for the plumber!! Thanks so much for your help insight

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  45. Alice Avatar
    Alice

    Thank you for posting your thoughts. The insurance appraiser needs an "it’s ok" letter on our ancient water heater & I wanted to examine if there is a more efficient type to consider when/if we need a new one. You gave me some insight to the venting which would be extensive in our case. THANKS

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  46. Tim T Avatar
    Tim T

    Very Very helpful. I’m going with the good old (new) tank ๐Ÿ™‚
    Thank you,
    TT

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  47. Laura Avatar
    Laura

    Great article. I was gung ho for new effiecency. but reading your article gave me valuable insights. I did not know anode could be changed. Will look at that first. Also I live in cold climate and need hot water in an ice storm!!
    Thanks.

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  48. mary Avatar
    mary

    Thanks for an informative review of the possibilities. I wanted to go with the tankless since a leak in a tank would destroy my apartment. After reading your article, I think I will go with a tank until the tankless ones have been around longer

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  49. Jag Avatar
    Jag

    I was thinking of buying tankless heater also, but your analysis made me change my mind.
    Thx

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