Tank vs. Tankless Water Heaters

In theory, I’m a big fan of tankless water heater technology. I even brought one back from Hong Kong in a large suitcase many years ago. It’s still cranking out the hot water in my processing facility. When it came time to replace my 20 year-old hand-me-down tank water heater in my home I thought, “Finally I can get a tankless water heater.” However, the technician in me insisted on research that ended up getting more involved than I had imagined. I went way beyond company literature or Consumer Reports and spoke with engineers at three different manufacturers. What I found is that a tankless is not always the best choice and it depends a great deal on your individual usage, climate, installation location, noise concerns, length of venting and energy source. (Please note the discussion below is limited to gas-fired units.)

Tank vs Tankless
Some of the first things to look at are cost, efficiency and climate.

  1. Cost. The cost of a tankless is about the same as a high-quality tank heater, ignoring installation. Gas tankless units run much hotter, often three times the BTU output of a tank unit and therefore require Category III stainless vent. It is very expensive. In my application, the vent would have cost as much as the tankless water heater. It can certainly be less in other applications with shorter runs. But it is a considerable cost even with short vent runs. Keep in mind if you are replacing a tank water heater, you will need to replace the entire venting system.
  2. Efficiency. Tank water heaters are getting more efficient. If you buy a 10- or 12-year warranty tank heater, they have more insulation and more efficient combustion chambers (in some cases) and often two diode rods (more on those later). In some cases the energy savings can be as low as 8% with a tankless. So compared to efficient tank units you may only save about $50 or less in energy costs per year. That’s a good thing for sure. However, it may cost you more when you calculate the cost of venting and higher maintenance on a tankless unit. In my case, it would have taken close to 30 years to pay for the added cost of the tankless in energy savings, when considering my installation and venting costs.
  3. Climate. One engineer working for a popular brand of both tankless and tank heaters attempted to talk me out of a tankless due to my northern Michigan location. In the end that info played a role in my decision. If you live in a cold climate and power failures are an issue in your area, keep in mind that the heat exchangers can crack in a matter of hours due to frigid air dropping in the vent on short vent installations. That’s a very expensive repair. This is not an issue with tank water heaters, but I’ll spare you the physics lecture. This was an issue for me because we often travel for four weeks at a time in the winter and we often leave our home available to friends. I love ’em, but I can’t entrust them to properly drain the plumbing lines.

In the end, I went with a tank heater in my application. It was the most cost-effective and greenest in my opinion. Had just a few of my factors been different, I could have easily gone with a tankless. Whatever you decide, don’t let anyone tell you that either is better unless they know all the particulars of your application. And remember, in the end the greenest and most cost-effective thing you can often do is take better care of what you have. If you have a tank heater, most people don’t know that 90% of failures are from the tank rotting out and leaking. That can easily be prevented by changing your anode rod every 2-5 years. The anode rod hangs down inside the water tank and is coated with a material that dissolves over time and prevents the water from rotting out the tank (Another reason why people say “Don’t drink or cook with water from the hot tap). It can be removed and inspected easily by a homeowner with a good wrench. You can get 20 plus years out of tank if you replace them, much less if you don’t. I bought a spare anode rod and hung it next to the water heater with tag saying “Install in year 2010.”

With a tankless, follow maintenance procedures and keep in mind, depending on the mineral content and quality of your water, you may need to flush your unit’s heat exchanger annually. It is also advised to install a sediment filter on your incoming water line.

I hope this helps. Because I built, wired and plumbed my own home I may have a bit above average understanding of these issues, but I’m no expert by any means. So do the research on your application and consult plumbers with experience in both applications.

Please click on “Comment” below and let me know if this was helpful.

Addendum February 2, 2011

Please note that I posted this article in 2007. Since that time many companies have come out with tankless water heaters that have PVC venting. That changes the cost consideration with regards to venting. I’m still an owner of both tank and tankless water heaters (home and business) and while I’m happy with both, I remain convinced that neither is supperior in all applications. So do your research and choose what works best for you.

Timothy


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158 responses to “Tank vs. Tankless Water Heaters”

  1. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    I purchased a tankless ELECTRIC water heater. While I loved it when it works, it is a maintenance nightmare. The designers chose to use ultra high density heating elements, to keep it small. VERY BAD idea if you have ANY minerals in your water.
    I have to dissasemble mine about every 90 days and usually replace at least 1 of the 3 elements, because they are so encased in calcium & lime that they are impossible to remove.
    Because the flow is so restricted the build up has no way to escape, and eventually destroys the elements. I even sent mine back to the manufacturer who rebuilt it, and it lasted roughly another 90 days.
    I have no doubt that I could build a better one myself, if I had time. But any tankless ELECTRIC water heater that is built to last will require a physical size much larger than the shoebox sized ones some people sell.
    Look for one that uses many LOW Density elements, if you want it to last. Or maybe a design where the elements are not in the water, but around the pipe.
    The faster the water is heated, the more the sediments are seperated.
    Hope you have better luck than I did.

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  2. MullinsLottie31 Avatar
    MullinsLottie31

    If you’re in a not good position and have got no cash to go out from that point, you would require to take the home loans. Just because that should help you emphatically. I take bank loan every single year and feel myself good because of this.

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  3. Alana Avatar
    Alana

    While I still haven’t decided which route to go, I appreciate your thorough analysis. I am much better equipped to ask appropriate questions to be able to make an intelligent decision.
    My tank heater is 20+ years, so I’m thankful for every day I have hot water!

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  4. sondra weaver Avatar
    sondra weaver

    Will a descaler manage the scale (calcium & Magnesium) in an electric water heater. i need to replace my old water heater which is full of sediment as is the line to my washing machine and hard scale on all my water faucets. I read the tankless need soft water. I have well water and it is very hard do not want a salt softner looking for alternatives before a new water heater. Your article was very helpful. Thank you

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  5. Janine Avatar
    Janine

    Thank you so much for the helpful info. I visited my sister in Spain and got to see/use water from the tankless unit in her apartment. With 8 of us showering after one another we did not have hot water all the way.
    I notice you posted the article since 07 or 09, do you still feel the same even with the new improved tankless now in 2012? How about the initial cost of installation? Is that still a big factor? We live in the south and about to build a lake house. Any info you give would be helpful in deciding which unit to go with.

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  6. Laflèche David Avatar
    Laflèche David

    very very good article u have that every step to be sure u make the righr choice

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  7. Luzenira Avatar
    Luzenira

    They work with all houses, but there is a lot you need to know. Be enward most plumbers will do their best to convince you to return a tankless and install a tank based system. Very few of them have installed them into houses and don’t like the change. Hard water issues:If you don’t have natural soft water then you need a water softener. Or you don’t get a tankless water heater. The minerals in water will leave buildup inside your water heater. If you get too much buildup, it will damage the heater. Not to mention the water heater won’t produce much hot water with a modest amount of buildup. Second the harder the water the more often you should flush the water heater with vinegar or similar solution. This removes the buildup and only takes about 30 minutes of your time if it is setup to do so. If your water is really hard you should flush it every two weeks, but for most areas with hard water can do every 1 or 2 months. It is inexpensive to do so. Even if you have natural soft water y

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  8. Carol Deese Avatar
    Carol Deese

    Chapel Hill, NC. Thank you for your comments. Very helpful

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  9. Merrill Farm Inn Avatar
    Merrill Farm Inn

    Very Good Article, supports a lot of what we have researched for our two hotels in New Hampshire. Article well written with strong logic and clear thoughts. Thanks

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  10. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    We recently purchased a 1000Ft2 cabin in the Arkansas Mountains. It will be use for weekends and vacations. There are few closets and I would like to get rid of my electric Tank heater and install a tankless system (for conserving space as much as anything else) and use the closet space for storage. As far as energy savings go (which is not my reason for thinking about this)We can turn off the current tank when we leave each visit. Can the tankless system be placed outside (covered and protected of course)? Any thoughts?

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  11. JayJay Avatar
    JayJay

    Which tank brands were you looking at & which did you go with?

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  12. Paul Avatar
    Paul

    Very informative and awesome review. Funny no where else was the extra maintenance mentioned on the tankless. I have a family of 5 and my NG 40 gal Tank always supplied sufficient hot water so that was not the issue. The issue for me is water conservation since my water bill dwarfs my NG bill by $100/mo. From what I am reading the amount of water used will probably be the same since it would still have a distance to travel. Another con is the additional heat, I live in Miami and I dont need more heat! I think that I will stick with an Ultra-Efficient NG tank system and save on the install coats.

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  13. Charlie Avatar
    Charlie

    Just the info I was looking for.
    Not all the salesmen will tell you ALL the facts. Very helpfull!!!

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  14. Carlos Avatar
    Carlos

    Tankless water heaters are a great choice, butyou need to make sure you size your unit correctly and read the fine print on some of the specs. Example is that of Gas tankless that claim flow rates of 7 – 8 gallons per minute. These claims are based on a temperature rise of 35 degrees over incoming water temperatures. So if you live in a Northern State were inlet water temperaturesaverage 55 degrees these claims can be a dissapointment since you will not be able to run multiple applications. If you live in Northern State and are thinking of going with a Gas Tankless make sure you select a unit rated at no less than 180,000 BTU, the lower priced ones are normally rated at 140,000 BTU or lower. You need to also consider that Energy Star rated units have an Energy Efficiency of about 82% so you need to take into account that you havea 18% average heat loss which reduces your overall temperature rise. You need to also make sure you are getting a unit that is UL/CSA (Safety) listed, since many of the lower price units have no US SAFETY standard Certifications.

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  15. Jan Avatar
    Jan

    I purchased a home that had replaced a tank system with tankless, which sounded good but has turned out to be a nightmare. You had to run the water forever to take a shower. Right after the shower, the water ran hot in the kitchen sink, but later in the day it didn’t. The dishwasher didn’t clean the dishes (water wasn’t hot enough until I learned to use only the heated wash option). I’ve considered various "patches" to make hot water more available. But it looks like the best solution is to take the tankless system out and put back the tank system it replaced. I’m in New Mexico. Anyone want a tankless unit?

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  16. Charles Schall Avatar
    Charles Schall

    Just the info I was looking for. Many thanks!

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  17. Peter Avatar
    Peter

    Excellent article; very informative… Will definitelly help in making my decision. Thanks.

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  18. Sue Sandlin-Plaehn Avatar
    Sue Sandlin-Plaehn

    Thanks! Very helpful!

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  19. Lani Avatar
    Lani

    This is great information.. I was ready to go tankless, but have high mineral content in my water, live in a cold climate and have to vent up 3 stories! I think I will stick to the gas type. Another factor not mentioned is that I think you have to wire an outlet for 220v. Another expense! Thanks for the advice!

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  20. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Tankless heaters are great if you need very low flow rates, best way to ensure you have sufficient hot water, calculate what is your fixture count, then look at the submittals of the heater you are considering. If you are working on a commercial or industrial project, you will find that you will require multiple, upon multiple tankless heaters. Insulating your storage tank properly and upgrading the heater to a high efficiency model condensing heater may be a more sensible option to consider. Most condensing heaters operate at up to 98%, combined with a storage tank, which acts a reservoir to deal with the initial onslaught/high demand you may find in a Hotel(where most customers shower from 6am to 8am). The potential costs of stand by heat loss are minnimized by proper insulation and one could say even off set by the peace of mind that your customers have hot water when they need it. If you are looking for a replacement storage tank visit our website at http://www.eastcoastwatersystems.com we cary a large inventory ready to ship and always have some models on select pricing.

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  21. David Avatar
    David

    Precisely what we’re faced with when trying to explain "the actual difference between – and the true cost(s) of" to many of our cliants that in some cases aren’t eager to accept after having been directed by the local "lo-depot" Guy, or omitted details from some website boasting lowest cost…when in fact a tankless is NOT suited for EVERY application ! *** Refreshing reminder we’re not in this alone*** thanks – Dave @ BrianYatesPlmbg.

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  22. Scott Perry Avatar
    Scott Perry

    Another thing to consider is water use. A survey by the Water efficiency labeling scheme in Australia concluded that tankless water heaters ( or continuous flow water heaters as we call them) use between 1.5 and 3.5 liters for the water to get to temperature at the outlet of the water heater. This is not the deadleg in the piping system but measured at the outlet of the water heater. It is estimated that here a family uses the hot tap from a cold start about 20 times per day. Doing the math. Call it 2.5 liters ( middle of the road) x20 times per day (50 liters per day) x 7 days per week (350 liters per week) x 50 weeks allowing 2 week vacation ( 17 500 liters per house hold per year).

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  23. wassermeister Avatar
    wassermeister

    It is too bad that there is not a Marathon water heater on the market with gas options. Marathon water heaters only come in electric set up. If there was a gas version you could get rid of having to the anode rod altogether. The tank is made out of polybutane and will not rust or corrode. Here is more information:
    http://www.ilovewaterheaters.com/features/superior-tank-design/

    Personally, I think that the tank gas heaters are a better choice in retrofit applications. A nice gas condensing unit will do.

    The tankless units are not as carefree as they are made out to be. Retrofitting a house with a tankless (unless new construction) is pretty expensive, since you need to upgrade the gas lines, etc.

    In any case nice blog above.

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  24. Olympia, Washington Avatar
    Olympia, Washington

    Thanks for the education on the two types of heaters. Like you said, it all depends on the climate you stay in. I was going to switch to a tankless but i guess after several research, I’m going to stick with my tank and make sure the anode rods are changed base on manufactures recommendations. Good looking out.

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  25. Osw Avatar
    Osw

    I would have somebody check the exsinitg tank first. Unless it is very small or you are a whole lot of water in that 15 minutes it should give you more hot water than that. In fear of scalding they do tend to set them very low these days. It may only need to be turned up. A hotter tank lasts longer because you use less. But you can’t turn it up too high if you have young children or elderly that scald easily. If it is a large tank you lower element that does most of the heating normally could be out and you are only getting a half of tank of hot water from the upper element. Or bad thermostat can do it also. First check the temp at the faucet. But a service call would be much cheaper. A tankless electric I recently saw requires three 40 amp circuits. Your exsinitg probably has only one 30 amp to it so you would need extensive wiring work as well as plumbing. It would be an expensive proposition unless your tank is very close to the panel and you have enough spare capacity on the panel.

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  26. Patrick Avatar
    Patrick

    Interested in obtaining a price quote from 3 diferefnt installer service along with detail description knowledge. Fact, not fiction.The area is Chautauqua county. I am in Lily Dale, N.Y. between Jamestown and Fredonia.Interest is GAS Tankless hot water heaters.EOM

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  27. Elamir Avatar
    Elamir

    You should just get a water softener. They’re not very expensive and over time all your appliances will last longer and you’ll you less soap saving you money.
    I believe people say that the water heater should be replaced every 8 to 10 years anyways as they tend to leak over time often times it just makes sense to replace over fix since its close to the time to replace anyways and water heaters are relatively inexpensive anyways.
    Consider solar – free hot water in the hot texas sun. The new system even work in the winter. I believe the solar water system should pay for it self in just a few years.

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  28. Vivian Avatar
    Vivian

    Timothy,
    Thank you for your helpful, clear and terse comparison. I have more research to do, but now I at least know where to begin.

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  29. Gregory Harrington Avatar
    Gregory Harrington

    Thanks for posting this. It has been highly valuable to me. I think the post of the tankless needing repair every 90 days is highly valuable. I’ve had my water heater (tank version), and it’s given me 14 solid years. 1 bid is $1000 for tank water heater vs $3000 for tankless… another bid is $2000 for tank water heater and $5000 for tankless water heater. Over the 14 years, I’ve done 0 maintenance. So, maybe next time, I can do some preventative maintenance and get even more years. I like the idea of getting the spare part up front in case parts aren’t available 5 years after initial installation. Very great research and perspective… I’m gonna get the tank water heater.

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  30. Jasmine Avatar
    Jasmine

    I am also from Northern MI debating on tank vs tankless. When I read you were also from the are it made me very happy knowing I was making an informed choice. Great article. Thank you

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  31. Zandra & Lori Amato Avatar
    Zandra & Lori Amato

    THANK YOU for your input. We like what you had to say and will take your research into consideration.

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    www.noritz.com

    Thanks a lot for this contribution! It’s been very useful for me. Everything is very open and represents very clear explanation of issues. Really blogging is spreading its wings quickly. Your write up is a good example of it. Your website is very useful. Thanks for sharing.

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  33. Eddy Avatar
    Eddy

    Timothy,
    We really appreciate your explanation of pros and cons of tank vs tankless heaters, as well as walking us through your decision making process. We are victims of Hurricane Sandy and have found ourselves in need of a new water heater. No complaints regarding our losses as our community and city has suffered losses we cannot compare. But people like you who take the time to offer useful cost saving advice that is quite educational are too few and far between. Many returns to you for paying it forward! You have helped us immensely.

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  34. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    At the margin, I think the tank heater is the way to go. The plumber has no incentive to properly assess my needs so why make it harder than necessary.

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  35. Dg Avatar
    Dg

    …Thanks for the detailed and logical discussion. Very informative.

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  36. Allan Mullaly Avatar
    Allan Mullaly

    I like the comparison of Tank vs. Tankless Water Heaters. I am with tankless water heater. It get very low space and so good and efficient especially Navien water heater. I have got it from cleanariheat[dot]ca

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  37. Erin Lowrey Avatar
    Erin Lowrey

    Very helpful!

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  38. Johnson Cool Avatar
    Johnson Cool

    I am all for tankless heaters, as well. I have to admit tankless are a bit pricy, but they get the job done.

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  39. Allan Mullaly Avatar
    Allan Mullaly

    I am impressed by your post. I like Navien water heater in Toronto.

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  40. Bryan in NM Avatar
    Bryan in NM

    What a great analysis. I need a new heater and I’ll stick with a tank and will hang the spare anode next to it.

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  41. Adrienne Avatar
    Adrienne

    Thanks so much for sharing this very well written and thorough article.

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  42. k Myers Avatar
    k Myers

    I really appreciated this article and it has helped me feel better about the financial decision to NOT go with a tankless system. I was feeling guilty for not going with a much more expensive system and it looked like I could upgrade my tank system and still be a more efficient house hold….thank you

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  43. Chris Wright Avatar
    Chris Wright

    First, thanks a lot for sharing your research. Because tankless appear to be more susceptible to scale, and waiting for the hot water to make it to the faucet with my just frozen tankless has been inconvenient (as well as wasteful), I am looking at a power vented tank heater. One reservation is that given that they cost as much as tankless, when the tank does go bad, I have to reinvest a lot of cash. Your thoughts, anyone? Thanks Chris

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  44. Allan Mullaly Avatar
    Allan Mullaly

    I like this article on tankless water heater. It is indeed a good appliance for home heating system. I got it from Clean Air Heat.

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  45. Bob Avatar
    Bob

    I really like your post and it really gives an outstanding idea that is very helpful for all the people on the web. Thank you very much for sharing this article.

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  46. Annette Avatar
    Annette

    Thanks for sharing. I own a townhouse style condo in New England. I have a 15+ yr gas water heater located on the third floor in a closet next to the furnace. Do you recomend a waterless tank for this type of application???

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  47. Gail Avatar
    Gail

    Thanks, this article was very helpful just starting to do our research.

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  48. Jeremy G. Avatar
    Jeremy G.

    Great read! Tons of interesting information to consider!

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  49. Alvin Avatar
    Alvin

    This maybe a little late but worth sharing. I bought an electric tankless heater two years ago and I’m loving it. Although I spent a lot for it, I noticed a small decrease in my electric bill. It makes tankless heaters is more economical in the long run. So, it is better than the tank heater as it provides hot water only on demand. There might be a lot of tankless water heaters in the market today but one from GadgetsGo.com works best for me.

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  50. Thiago daLuz Avatar
    Thiago daLuz

    Quite helpful

    This is handy info, indeed.

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